ep/hugi trying to destroy our demoscene community?
category: general [glöplog]
Today the webmaster of the Hogeschool Rotterdam received the following email message:
From what I understand this person is also known in the demoscene as 'ep'.
Unfortunatly for this person, the scene.org network is being hosted at the Hogeschool Rotterdam perfectly legally. The Hogeschool Rotterdam supports the demoscene and the development of digital art through it's sponsoring the housing of the scene.org network and providing hardware that has been vital for our survival in the past.
Also we are are used to young people who consume alcohol so I don't think that will shock anyone over here. In the past I even was a co-organizer of several demoparties (Takeover) at the Eindhoven University, and the board of the university loved it.
This email is not the only threat sent by this person. Several active demosceners have and are being harrassed by this person and even received death threats from him!
I'd just like to say, dear Emmanuel, try finding another hobby or seek out help from a shrink to help with your problems.
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To: "Webmaster Hogeschool Rotterdam" <webmaster@hro.nl>
From: emmapwork emmapwork" <emmapwork@gmail.com>
Subject: university server usage non conforming to laws
Time: 3-4-2008 2:00:52
Hi,
I've noticed that in your university, a server is used for illegal usage:
it hosts www.pouet.net, www.scene.org and many more, IP = 145.24.145.100.
This server is used by irresponsible young drunk people (see some photos at www.slengpung.com) and see some horrible pictures posted there here: http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=14&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pouet.net%2Fdemoblog.php%3Fwho%3D665%26com%3D25%26page%3D3&ei=KB30R5nuO6LEwQGQupH7DA&usg=AFQjCNFdyUjeRjsMWso81rm5KBmqaRoTXw&sig2=kAH2mpWM1NZ75yqBlXXqig
It's not the only one and there is even threats of death, drug consumption, ...
->http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=6&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pouet.net%2Ftopic.php%3Fwhich%3D2991%26page%3D1&ei=aR30R7-QJIPUwwGZtpz3DA&usg=AFQjCNHxNflvvSnW4DAAbF9I6stdryM07g&sig2=FQiKx-vMAKQmJTQNbtm6uA
->http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=6&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pouet.net%2Fdemoblog.php%3Fwho%3D15830%26com%3D25%26page%3D3&ei=oR30R_bfGYe4wwHw_qWFDQ&usg=AFQjCNEwDPqDaTTbcYfiRIKlZIPkLEjCWA&sig2=-Ef02RrE2J3jKa4LOF2POw
Please SHUT DOWN this server and ensure all the datas stored there are handled to the police: those guys are part of a multinational cracking organisation called the scene.
A letter will be sent to your university director to inform him about these illegal usage.
Thanks not to waste tax payers money and be careful in the future.
--
Emmanuel
--
http://www.hugi.scene.org/
From what I understand this person is also known in the demoscene as 'ep'.
Unfortunatly for this person, the scene.org network is being hosted at the Hogeschool Rotterdam perfectly legally. The Hogeschool Rotterdam supports the demoscene and the development of digital art through it's sponsoring the housing of the scene.org network and providing hardware that has been vital for our survival in the past.
Also we are are used to young people who consume alcohol so I don't think that will shock anyone over here. In the past I even was a co-organizer of several demoparties (Takeover) at the Eindhoven University, and the board of the university loved it.
This email is not the only threat sent by this person. Several active demosceners have and are being harrassed by this person and even received death threats from him!
I'd just like to say, dear Emmanuel, try finding another hobby or seek out help from a shrink to help with your problems.
I would expect to see a statement from the Hugi people really soon where they publicly distance themselves from this individual and promise not to have anything to do with him.
AWESOME!! ep r0xx.. he is my favourite scen0r
OMG... sometimes I'm really amazed around how some humans act.
does he suggest taking down scene.org without taking down hugi.scene.org?
I hope it's a really bad joke, something here doesn't mix, and it's not BASS and SCHIESSE...
Since when "the scene" is illegal? :D
Since when "the scene" is illegal? :D
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I would expect to see a statement from the Hugi people really soon where they publicly distance themselves from this individual and promise not to have anything to do with him.
I would have expected that a long time ago, but this goes so far beyond anything anyone in their right mind would support, I'd be sorely disappointed to see them continue to actively provide a platform for the ravings of this deranged individual.
if scene.org hosts such filth as hugi, then it shuld be put down!
up with nosfe.
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This server is used by irresponsible young drunk people
Hey - at let med add "responsible old drunk people"! fucking discrimination this is.
I'm trying to remember how this thing escalated. It was ep that first wrote an article on hugi about the future of the scene wasn't it ? And then people reacted by saying it is all rubbish (it was) and he came back with threats and ramblings of a madman (5 girlfriends?) and so on and so on ?
lord of lamers.
lord of lamers.
Heh, I think he is brave. You go boy! :D
not funny
Amazing.
This is excellent.
seriously, he really needs a psy to help with his problems...
Aye caramba, another scene drama! \o/
I'm shocked to what escalation it has come. I'm of the opinion that scene.org is an admirable institution which is doing an outstanding job for the scene and modern technologies in general.
I want to distance myself from these attacks at scene.org.
I know from emails from EP that he felt attacked by somer sceners' criticism. I tried to make him calm down and show him how to react in a factual and sensible manner. That's why I'm surprised that it has come to this escalation.
In this context I want to mention that EP isn't a member of Hugi Core & Royal Family and he only speaks for himself.
I want to distance myself from these attacks at scene.org.
I know from emails from EP that he felt attacked by somer sceners' criticism. I tried to make him calm down and show him how to react in a factual and sensible manner. That's why I'm surprised that it has come to this escalation.
In this context I want to mention that EP isn't a member of Hugi Core & Royal Family and he only speaks for himself.
"multinational cracking organisation" : I always dreamt of being a bad boy !
This goes a little beyond the usual "scene drama" IMO.
yes :|
Adok: What does "Hugi Core" mean? Is there a Hugi Periphery too?
cracking organisation. yea we crack jokes all day :(
Perhaps they utilize the outlaw biker system of full member and hangarounds? :)
Finally someone that did some detective work to find out that the demoscene basically is a collective of murderers, rapists and badmouthed drunk bastards.