LulzSec is killing the internet.
category: offtopic [glöplog]
Quote:
Kim sold Blueboxfrequencies and Calling Cards in the nineties, teamed up with Lawyer Günther Freiherr von Gravenreuth (RIP) and then sold half of the Phreaking/BBS Scene to the german justice and ripped of sceners aswell by not paying them for work they did for him.
is there any documented record of this? i dont mean official ones, but has anyone ever written this down as an article or something? i've been looking for a while and i haven't really found anything useful or comprehensive, although i found clues and allusions.
Record of what exactly? That he worked with Günni, or sold Stuff, or ripped off ppl?
anything, i guess. it's one of those things where everyone is aware that he sold out people but noone seems to have written anything down.
i guess my point is, people are up in arms about megaupload being down, and yet they don't know the that the dude would sell them out at a drop of a hat if he had the chance - and i have a feeling that now that he's in shit, he WILL try to do that.
i guess my point is, people are up in arms about megaupload being down, and yet they don't know the that the dude would sell them out at a drop of a hat if he had the chance - and i have a feeling that now that he's in shit, he WILL try to do that.
No i guess theres no written record about the ripoffs and the ratting on sceners.
All else can be found.
All else can be found.
Sounds like the guy behind it is a complete scumbag (as are a lot of the people behind these sharing sites), so I think this is a good result.
It got me thinking a bit though: compare megaupload to android market. You can upload what you like pretty much to either. On both you'll find copyright violation (on android typically shit like this: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sword.infinity&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zd29yZC5pbmZpbml0eSJd ), and both remove files once they're aware of the issue. Could android market be shut down on the same basis then?
Obviously there was a lot more to it in the case of megaupload (they're up for money laundering and such too which presumably google aren't involved in!) but on the infringement basis the only difference I see is scale. And there are a *ton* of sites that host content like this, mostly legitimate but with a few bad apples.
It got me thinking a bit though: compare megaupload to android market. You can upload what you like pretty much to either. On both you'll find copyright violation (on android typically shit like this: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sword.infinity&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zd29yZC5pbmZpbml0eSJd ), and both remove files once they're aware of the issue. Could android market be shut down on the same basis then?
Obviously there was a lot more to it in the case of megaupload (they're up for money laundering and such too which presumably google aren't involved in!) but on the infringement basis the only difference I see is scale. And there are a *ton* of sites that host content like this, mostly legitimate but with a few bad apples.
I would love to read something more about the phreaking/bbs scene in germany...
i remember ghandi writing an article about kim and the phreaking/bbs scene incidents.
The article Ghandy wrote about Kimble was ublished in Pain#50
Just read it again.. fun!
download here
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=5224
Just read it again.. fun!
download here
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=5224
mixtape 2 of the 99 anonymous
http://www.mixcloud.com/enoughrecords/99-anonymous-mixtape-2/
http://www.mixcloud.com/enoughrecords/99-anonymous-mixtape-2/
psonice: i beg you pardon, mostly legitamte?
regarding megaupload: what i heard through the grapevine is that the feds paid particular attention megaupload in detriment of the other file sharing sites due to 3 factors:
- easier to apprehend, they all do money laundering schemes, but germany and new zealand police is easier to coordinate with, as opposed to random russian mobsters.
- higher pressure from MPAA, megaupload was not only one of the most used sites, but also was also testing a way to compensate artists directly, and i guess megasong didnt sound too pretty to some execs
- SOPA didnt pass, so they needed to show some "you can't get away with this!" to the general public
unfortunately they forgot they were addressing the internet :p
- easier to apprehend, they all do money laundering schemes, but germany and new zealand police is easier to coordinate with, as opposed to random russian mobsters.
- higher pressure from MPAA, megaupload was not only one of the most used sites, but also was also testing a way to compensate artists directly, and i guess megasong didnt sound too pretty to some execs
- SOPA didnt pass, so they needed to show some "you can't get away with this!" to the general public
unfortunately they forgot they were addressing the internet :p
I wanted to write a big rant about the delusions about some hypocrite small artists in connection with Megauploads shutdown, but pouet kicked me out before i could press submit. But i guess nobody would have wanted to read it anyways. :P
killzsec is lulling the internet! just so you know.
Quote:
unfortunately they forgot they were addressing the internet :p
It's so fucking cold here that it's really not funny anymore, but this made my day :D
Quote:
- SOPA didnt pass, so they needed to show some "you can't get away with this!" to the general public
your chronology doesn't add up - the indictment was filed jan 5, that's almost two weeks before even the blackout (jan 18) let alone the announcement to postpone it (jan 20)
Yeah Garg, but you can't say the timing of the *consecutive* raids world-wide wasn't coincidental.
how noble.
why cant the scripkids go and ddos all those fucking emailspammers, ads placers and scamware makers who really ruin the internet instead of fucking EDF (Electricite De France) because kimbles wanker site got busted.
just asking...
just asking...
I'm with you Juvey but can't really see the headlines "Viagra scammer sues Anonymous for website shutdown."
However if you'd like to talk to my uncle King Kwambo of Burrundi about setting up a fund to stop them I can forward him your email address.
However if you'd like to talk to my uncle King Kwambo of Burrundi about setting up a fund to stop them I can forward him your email address.
What gets me is why would anyone want the source to a product that is so shit and generic (time-limited Nortons seems to come pre-installed on everything these days).
Yeah, yeah, PCAnywhere could give a lot of backdoors but, fuck what are you going to get apart from holiday pics. and emails detailing inter-office affairs.
Yeah, yeah, PCAnywhere could give a lot of backdoors but, fuck what are you going to get apart from holiday pics. and emails detailing inter-office affairs.
on a more creative note: mixtapes 3 and 4 of the 99 anonymous project were also released
http://www.enoughrecords.scene.org/anonymous_archives/
http://www.enoughrecords.scene.org/anonymous_archives/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/technology/attack-on-vatican-web-site-offers-view-of-hacker-groups-tactics.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1
And frankly, I'm afraid of the latter more.
Quote:
“Anonymous is a handful of geniuses surrounded by a legion of idiots,” said Cole Stryker, an author who has researched the movement. “You have four or five guys who really know what they’re doing and are able to pull off some of the more serious hacks, and then thousands of people spreading the word, or turning their computers over to participate in a DDoS attack.”
And frankly, I'm afraid of the latter more.