LulzSec is killing the internet.
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Comedy gold. It'll be hugely funny if these people 'doxing' the wrong people end up getting caught for doing that before the actual lulzsec members are caught :)
Its also nice that people in the previous announcement in the comments section only comment that they like Pantera and nothing else. :D
So much for their retirement, they just hacked thesun.co.uk (probably the biggest uk newspaper after 'the news of the world - which got shut down because of the phone hacking scandal, which I guess is a story worldwide lately).
First it redirected to a nice fake story saying rupert murdoch is dead, overdosed on palladium: http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2011/07/sunpage-2.jpg
Right now they're redirecting the home page to their own twitter feed, and apparently having a battle with the sun sysadmins.
First it redirected to a nice fake story saying rupert murdoch is dead, overdosed on palladium: http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2011/07/sunpage-2.jpg
Right now they're redirecting the home page to their own twitter feed, and apparently having a battle with the sun sysadmins.
yay
Curious. Lulzsec claimed to have grabbed some email archives while attacking the Sun newspaper site a few days back. The emails were supposedly from the Sun (owned by news international/murdoch) and the news of the world (same owner, this is the paper that got shut down because of the phone hacking).
They promised to release those emails yesterday (or maybe the day before?), but they didn't turn up. I was thinking that whatever they got had turned out to be old + uninteresting, especially as they'd released usernames + passwords at the time for staff who had left years previously.
Well, they just tweeted that they're not releasing them yet, because they're working with some news outlets, who're getting exclusive access.
Maybe they got some good stuff after all then? If so, they're finally doing something usefull ;)
They promised to release those emails yesterday (or maybe the day before?), but they didn't turn up. I was thinking that whatever they got had turned out to be old + uninteresting, especially as they'd released usernames + passwords at the time for staff who had left years previously.
Well, they just tweeted that they're not releasing them yet, because they're working with some news outlets, who're getting exclusive access.
Maybe they got some good stuff after all then? If so, they're finally doing something usefull ;)
you seem disturbingly infatuated with their presence.
Not really. I follow the tech news quite closely, and tend to follow just a few stories quite closely. At the moment, I'm following this one and the mobile patent war (mainly macrosolve/lodsys as that could affect me personally at some point but also google/oracle is pretty interesting).
And I mean hey, if you're going to follow a news story, this is quite a classic. You basically have a bunch of criminals on the run, doing a string of bank robberies (including some where innocent people get hurt, and the occasional one that could actually prove to be beneficial like the NOTW emails). All of which is being played out in public, and is very likely to end with 5AM police raids.
Plus there's the fascinating social aspect, all the kids following them and getting caught, the whole 'political hacking' thing which seems very poorly thought out and mostly incompetently carried out. I think all of this is indeed going to have some effect on society, probably not what the likes of anonymous/lulzsec etc. envisage, probably not the police state people fear either.
So yeah, I'm no fan of theirs. I give them a thumb up for things like the fake murdoch story, which was pretty funny. And a big thumb down for releasing the personal data of so many people. If I was rating a prod, it'd be a big thumb down in the end. But the story? That gets a coup de coeur ;)
And I mean hey, if you're going to follow a news story, this is quite a classic. You basically have a bunch of criminals on the run, doing a string of bank robberies (including some where innocent people get hurt, and the occasional one that could actually prove to be beneficial like the NOTW emails). All of which is being played out in public, and is very likely to end with 5AM police raids.
Plus there's the fascinating social aspect, all the kids following them and getting caught, the whole 'political hacking' thing which seems very poorly thought out and mostly incompetently carried out. I think all of this is indeed going to have some effect on society, probably not what the likes of anonymous/lulzsec etc. envisage, probably not the police state people fear either.
So yeah, I'm no fan of theirs. I give them a thumb up for things like the fake murdoch story, which was pretty funny. And a big thumb down for releasing the personal data of so many people. If I was rating a prod, it'd be a big thumb down in the end. But the story? That gets a coup de coeur ;)
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Well, they just tweeted that they're not releasing them yet, because they're working with some news outlets, who're getting exclusive access.
Sounds a lot like they're "selling their story". Isn't that one of the things that got NOW shit-canned in the first place?
noone likes a competing rival.
ringo: kind of, yeah. They were hacking people's voicemail, to get information for stories. Including the phone of a murdered schoolgirl.
I know, I was more implying the unscrupulous selling of info (in the phone-hacking scenario mostly by bent coppers) in order to get a quick buck for the papers and the seller.
One thing I really dislike, is when they start their rightous babble about defending people's privacy and shielding communities from big-brother regimes.
I was brought up and tought how to fight my own battles. If I find a battle worth taking on, I would probably do so - using legal means, diplomacy and keeping an open mind for other's opinions. I can't help feel that every individual ever connected to the internet is somehow taken hostage by their crusade towards their goals. Please leave me out of it, and never claim to "service the public". That's me, you know. I'm the public :)
I was brought up and tought how to fight my own battles. If I find a battle worth taking on, I would probably do so - using legal means, diplomacy and keeping an open mind for other's opinions. I can't help feel that every individual ever connected to the internet is somehow taken hostage by their crusade towards their goals. Please leave me out of it, and never claim to "service the public". That's me, you know. I'm the public :)
Ringo: well, we don't know if they're selling it or not. Possibly not, because it's possibly illegal (and I guess the journos are careful about that just now ;) and payment might leave a trail for the law to follow. Also anonymous released a statement saying they wouldn't release it because it might affect the trial, which makes some sense - and the media will have access to lawyers who can advise on what's publishable.
Punqtured: sometimes these groups 'defending' us from stuff is actually a good thing. Especially if they're revealing corruption and stuff, which we wouldn't otherwise know about (and which is what a lot of them claim to be doing).
Problem is they're so disorganised, and so naive. Half of what they do is incompetent or causes more harm than good, and half seems to be driven by conspiracy theories. End result is they're about as useful as a bunch of shitfaced clowns (real ones, not the group) :)
Punqtured: sometimes these groups 'defending' us from stuff is actually a good thing. Especially if they're revealing corruption and stuff, which we wouldn't otherwise know about (and which is what a lot of them claim to be doing).
Problem is they're so disorganised, and so naive. Half of what they do is incompetent or causes more harm than good, and half seems to be driven by conspiracy theories. End result is they're about as useful as a bunch of shitfaced clowns (real ones, not the group) :)
I agree with you psonice but let's not forget that this is the same group who released thousands of UK atm records. To me that's 1 step removed from card skimming - as in they may not actually be stealing "the public's" money but they sure ain't making it difficult for those who want to...
So yeah I agree with you also Punq - when I want a white knight I'll ask for 1.
So yeah I agree with you also Punq - when I want a white knight I'll ask for 1.
Aaand they're back in the news. This time because the police have finally caught up with them and arrested 'topiary', the guy that seemed to do their 'pr'. He was caught in the Shetland Islands north of scotland. Unexpected!
in other news: if you havent already, you stop using paypal.
Next you'll be telling me I shouldn't have re-verified my account details with my bank after that email they sent me...
i did actually withdraw a bunch of money from paypal too, but before I'd heard about this boycott. I've probably added to their statistics. Oh well, I left a bunch of USD in there, it could have been worse.
Anyway, about this antisec thing.. I have a suggestion. How about we all get involved, but take it out of the internet and into the physical world. Basically, we go round looking for open windows. If we find one, we break in and take all the people's stuff, then dump it all in the street for people to take. All to highlight weak security. That's a good plan right?
Anyway, about this antisec thing.. I have a suggestion. How about we all get involved, but take it out of the internet and into the physical world. Basically, we go round looking for open windows. If we find one, we break in and take all the people's stuff, then dump it all in the street for people to take. All to highlight weak security. That's a good plan right?
I think they like pretty guys like you in jail psonice ;-P
@cons: "wer zu letzt lacht..." .... hat die pointe verpennt :)
you silly person, antisec is target at government and corporations. so we would have to target a bank or the senate, and obviously write the information we find in graffiti in a place very hard to clean so people wouldnt steal it and leave no traces of it behind.
also: people stealing each others credentials and credit card information have been happening for way much longer before the internet was formed. just that back then random corporations didnt get all of your info whenever you entered the building, to lay them in a basket near an easily breakable window. they had tested security. unlike nowdays internet privacy protection standards.