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one incredible piece of work. extraordinary music, great 3d models, twisted storyline. has to be watched several times to catch the mood, that's why it ranked only second, although it pretty much deserved the 1st place. too bad that the gfx card reqs are so high, but well, times are changing...

I'm with dipswitch here, it would have deserved the first place. Can't remember that much about it, but I really liked it, it was like a dream world.

it did not appeal to me. not at all.

Very nice modelling and texturizing, but I can't help losing interest in it.

I really really like this. Nice little world (animated) world with a decent attention to detail.

great work

Great demo, maybe a bit 'static'. But probably you have to watch it several times to reveal all details.

Ahhhh

i have radeon and i'm with scali..... but don't see the demo and don't vote thumb down.

great work... everything comes together so well. Cool 3D design

damn great modelling, fantastic atmosphere. beats fr if you ask me.

no comment

plek : you are really a fucker : this demo rule much more than the shity techno thing you submitted : and do not say that there is no feeling : there is more feeling in these models tahn in your "used for the 50 th time" metaballs.

DTC attitude

plek : you are really a fucker : this demo rule much more than the shity techno thing you submitted : and do not say that there is no feeling : there is more feeling in these models tahn in your "used for the 50 th time" metaballs.

DTC attitude

very very good work. deserve the 1st place

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this demo is visually impressive and you still find new details everytime you run it.
except some minor flaws in animations, this demo rocks hard.
and for the moment, this is practically the only demo making reasonable use of shaders.

didnt run on my radeon9000...

Very cool demo !!

"plek : you are really a fucker : this demo rule much more than the shity techno thing you submitted : and do not say that there is no feeling : there is more feeling in these models tahn in your "used for the 50 th time" metaballs."

dear nytrik, even though you don't seem very sensible or sufficiently skilled to correctly read and interpret english comments, i must tell you that "did not appeal to me" in no way means "this demo sucks and has no feeling". it simply means that i didn't find it very interesting, which, i hope, is my good right. i recognize the quality in both the engine and the modelling (except for those few flaws here and there).

oh and fyi, i haven't used metaballs this time. so you're not very good at identifying effects either :D

just to prove that even though you have nice graphical skills, you're just so totally dumb ;)

Realy beautyfull....

sadly, i'm not sure it's a 100times rewatch prod ;( Just like most of the 3D flybys.

Anyway, your engine rocks and you used it fucking well, models are incredible, it's game quality and for that, you got my respect.

hugs

very impressive artistic work

"dear nytrik, even though you don't seem very sensible or sufficiently skilled to correctly read and interpret english comments, i must tell you that "did not appeal to me" in no way means "this demo sucks and has no feeling". it simply means that i didn't find it very interesting, which, i hope, is my good right. i recognize the quality in both the engine and the modelling (except for those few flaws here and there"


just to prove that not only you have no skills, you're also so totally dumb ;)

for a moment i hoped you were sensible enough, but i was clearly wrong. nytrik, you're acting like a farty 15 year old (your writing qualifies for a 12 year old). instead of proving my arguments wrong, all you can do is twist a sentence.

you're the perfect example of the average french scener: arrogant and unable to communicate with foreigners in a decent manner. for someone without any skills i make a rather good living (so i guess i couldn't care after all..)

now,
a) come up with some feasible argument(s), or, b) go make another unbearable hellish demo with "feeling".


fat fuck :)

doesn't run here due to radeon.

rule rule rule

plek + nytrik = DTC

ahahahaha come on boys, you don't like each others? so ignore yourselves and stfu ehehe ;)

hug to you all anyway!

wicked

yes sir

Nvidia only

nytrik, you're killing the scene! (whatever object did you confuse for metaballs anyway?)

radeon fix please

am i in a movie or what?!?!
these scenes are awesome. really cool futuristic/fantasy/oldschool/whatever theme. The glass bulding and the dinosaur really rocked the house.
To all nv only downthumbers: it's not their fault that our beloved chip manufacturers didnt manage to make a real opengl standard in time, so stick your thumbs were they belong :)

Massive artwork, but honestly, I don't get it.

this is not a popular demo but an incredibly detailed beautiful thing which still, after watching it a couple of times has something more in the box to show. i know a bit about the stuff they showed there, but its a really bit strange to understand it i have to say. anyway, music fits the strange atmosphere too. its a great message!

this is not a popular demo but an incredibly detailed beautiful thing which still, after watching it a couple of times has something more in the box to show. i know a bit about the stuff they showed there, but its a really bit strange to understand it i have to say. anyway, music fits the strange atmosphere too. its a great message!

crappy code (nvidia only) , booring demo.

cannot watch it at home, since i will never buy a fucking crappy nvidia card again, i feel sorry for the guys that want to make new effects and using *nice* feutures with the radeon/matrox cards, but are forced to limit themselves to crappy hw like nvidia. i guess the orgos wants german groups to take the top, and tehereof must use nvidia only compos.


oh and btw, shiva is looking for a job in the gameindustry, where he can develop demos for old nvidia cards, dont bother if you are planning on making games that works on ati or matrox cards aswell, i dont think he's intrested. (somewhat what i understood of the nfo).


oh, and fuckings to the democrew of breakpoint for allowing this crappy stuff in the compo, please stop cheat and let everyone have a chance, not just nvidia owners. you suck. seriously.


don't meantion the war.

you seem to have a personal problem with the kolor guys ?

stop the war! :)

nah - stefan is just a cunt who hates everyone.

seen it at the bigscreen! it rulez!

booring = "press Esc"

jazz: i didnt war about the mediawars, i warned about people meantioning *the* war. ok? >P

Very good visual design and modelling, however the animation was comparatively very poor, the engine was as generic as it gets (no shadows for these robots? wtf!), the music plainly sucked, and the resulting demo was terribly boring.

No thumbs down but it was a close match. Next time consider doing a slideshow.

should have won imho

stefan: is Farbrausch jewish? They can't be German anyway, most of their stuff works on my G450, my GF2 and my R8500... Yes, Farbrausch sets examples in other areas than 64k aswell.

yeah, after rewatching it at home twice, I'm clearly positive that it should've won. sadly, we don't have time/opportunity to rewatch demos twice at parties (and that's probably a good thing anyway).

nVidia only? Well...

style

This definitely should've won. Those animations rock, the scenes are extremely detailled and the whole feeling is just great Jules Verne stuff. Wow!
Downside: PLEASE consider a Radeon fix!!!

Everything said

i enjoy this demo so much. liebe koloristen, ihr seid total krank. respect for this kunstwerk.

what a great production. perfect design, great animations and modelling. r0ckt das haus.

grossartig! sadly i cant watch it at home, but it still rulez. gotta watch ita few times more.

Kolor is back in town! Taking the 3d oriented demos into a new level, very professionally assembled, moody demo, fitting soundtrack - all the pieces seem to fit perfectly together.

Incredible design, brilliant code! Kolor 0wnz you!

radeon.

its pretty dull, yet very impressive. good work, i think i have to see this a few times to really make up my mind about it, buts its not going to be anything less than a thumbs up.

divx please

I like that VERY well, too....
It was also an impressive show on the big screen! And therefore VERY hard to vote in the end!! :-/
That really bothered me this time though...

Anyways...a BIG thumb up for the technically really brilliant work in this one...as well as the style and overall presentation!! Kicks major ass... Definitely...

it was nice... i think..

my god... kolor i love you !!!

Amazing work! Great modeling and style, it rocks with antialiasing. Imho it's pointless to argue whether this or the farbrausch demo should be first, they are both extremely well made. And, although I am a happy gf4 owner, I too believe that all demos should work on equally equipped hardware (ATI Radeons in this example). Anybody considering mailing ATI on this issue so that they write equivalent OGL extensions?

would have worked better if rendered hi-quality (add shadows, make those robots higher-poly) and entered as animation, IMO. Shows a lot of work, but the result is not good as a demo IMO

Awesome visuals, but didn't like the music.

i love your prods !
thx, please i want more.

doesn't work on my pc :-(

very static.
but impressive modelling, animation, graphics and of course nice music (not the usual stuff)
nice.

winxp gf4-2go gives me a critical warning - program will now close.

there is nothing more to say than a big thumbs up.

Leaves a strange feeling that something was missing (melody, synchs, shadows, robots' heads?), but a thumb up for excellent modelling and graphics anyway.

I like these senseless actions of the robots. Hm, Geforce only? Nah...

plek: Writing things like "you're the perfect example of the average french scener: arrogant and unable to communicate with foreigners in a decent manner." will not get you any friends in the french scener world.

Puting everybody in the same bag is not what I would call a very enlighted view of reality.

Back to the demo: Well, it works perfectly on my machine, the rendering is very nice, and the design reminds me of a SteamPunk version of the DreamCast game "Skies of Arcadia". A very nice one indeed, but it's not "party stuff". It's missing the typical "whaou effect". But well, we don't create demos for wining parties, right ?

So keep on doing this :)

DIVX PLEASE

Oh crap this was amazing, alot of talented people had to of contributed :)

just ranked it as OK coz can't watch it
Radeon Fix please !!

just ranked it as OK coz can't watch it
Radeon Fix please !!

just ranked it as OK coz can't watch it
Radeon Fix please !!

Crash on Radeon 9500. :(

i loved it in the compo, but the compatibility issues make me give a piggy.

doesn't work on geforceFX 5200 either, because nvidia liked to kick out some colour-compression stuff :-(

very nice modeling, but it is the only good point in my opinion... i find the music quite boring and some atmosphere is missing... still impressive to see however.

oh another good point i forgot to mention: it runs perfecly with win98 although it is not supposed to be supported...

einfach schön!

patch for radeon! or divx.....

<o/ K O L O R \o>

Shame about the hw requirements, but nice to have a divx version at least.

From a purely visual point of view the demo left me in awe. The low contrast textures and design gives it a unique identity and sets it apart from the usual flybys. Very creative and intricate modelling too.

Stunning models and atmosphere. When i see the models in this demo, Leonardo Da Vinci comes to my mind. Wicked imagination :)

rulez. link (divx version):
[url]http://www.scene.org/file.php?file=/demos/groups/kolor/relais_by_kolor.avi[/rul]

thank you for the avi and big thumbs up for models, design and detail. those flying fans are my favourites!
(even the music gets better with every time i watch this prod, though i still think it does not quite succeed supporting the mood of the visuals.)

Nothing new to add; like the visuals, like the music.. The demo reminds me of some x-mix stuff in a way.

it runs good on WinMe (p4 1.8 + 512ddr + gef4ti128mb)
too long prod, too much the same scenes viewed from different cams
good code, bumb maps looks fine
great color sheme, but the scenes are not coherent
and the fact the men is crazy is not an excuze :)

radeon mobility 9000 doesnt like it :-/

This demo got nice graphics and nice sound! Anyways, I don't think that ppl. should thumb this down becouse it uses directx..heh. It seems that alot of work has been put down to make this prod, and it's an absolutley good prod!
way to go!

Expected a lot more from the bp03 2nd place demo. I found this one way slow, and boring.

I'm not really sure if I like this demo or not. :-) I get slightly the same feeling from it as I did from "Le Petit Prince" -- IMO it fails to tell a `story', and when you take that away you're left with a lot of 3D scenes. Even after reading the README, I don't really see why it would require a GF3 (all I can think of is the water effect, which really isn't that great), and I think that making nVidia-only demos should be avoided, but okay, that's the state of things.

Overall, a lot of nice things, and it shows that Kolor has put a lot of work into this demo, but I'm left with the "bumpmapping for bumpmapping's sake" feeling, sorry. :-)

Oh, and for the comments up there: ATI _does_ provide equivalent extensions, they just don't provide the _same_ extensions (as the README points out). Not having ATI cards to test on is a valid excuse, though. :-)

Oh, I forgot: I like the modelling. :-)

incredible demo.
great atmosphere, music, textures, models.

one of the best demos ever...

extraordinary demo ... runs ok under win98/ti4200 @ 800 only

mavellous work

Just for the amazing models, textures and worlds, it rulez,. but I hope I would see them used properly in something more interesting. Kolor demos gets somehow boring to me..

Very nice graphics and models, but too bad it just feels very boring to watch. Thumbs up for the graphics though.

GRATE demo! I like very much this! it makes me think of world if robots not men it is sad for me. Say to STOP for it not to hapen for us!

It didn't work on my Radeon 9600, it gave me some "Critical warning" error.

If you're going to use Vertex Shaders, at least make it work on cards that support it. I probably would have thumbed it since i saw this at Breakpoint and i found it quite nice, but since it won't work with my gfxcard i'll wait until you release a final that works.

I liked the video more than I liked it on real hardware. Not sure why. I appreciate the content and the engine, but as a demo it's just boring if you ask me.

Thumbs up for the models,animation and design

it seems so good that it's a pity it doesn't work on ATi cards :/

it doesnt run even on gf ti4200, quits with "Critical warning" error.

gives a critical error every time unless i turn AA off on the demo startup window (runs with AA if i set it in the nvidia control panel), then it runs but stutters a lot in places (even with all textures compressed, and aa off). xeon 3.06, quadro fx1000, latest nvidia drivers

typical! Today it runs perfectly, even with AA on and the res turned up! No config changes so maybe it just wanted a reboot?

This reminds me hearing taatu all the night when shiva visited abductee and me during the creating of this prod...

Gets you in a quite strange mood, think that's one of the main intentions; really hard or maybe not at all to explain.

Wonderful

watched the divx yeasterday. nice work tho.

SERIOUSLY, THERE NEEDS TO BE ATI SUPPORT.

first the dinosaurs died, and we put them in our museums, then the humans died and our robots put our pictures on the walls.. There must be some kind of message in this one. The mad robot at the end is creepy.. Did the robots colonize us? (Galleon thing) did the environment go to hell?(tree) did the robots outsmart us making us redundant?(chessgame).. or ...... OOORRR.. is this just bloody good looking. I absolutely love that airborne galleon. :)

so what about ati patch ? cmon plz
I want to watch this and your other demos

NVidia only? I feel like this demo required 2 meg of chipmem and all I have is 512chip/512fast...
Guess the hardware abstraction layer wasn't abstract enuff. Oh well, wasting scene.org's bandwidth downloading yet another huge AVI. Would've loved to seen this in realtime...

RELEASE A FINAL ! Halffunctional only GeForce party releases sucks... <img src=http://www.pouet.net/gfx/sucks.gif>

.....or rework your shitty only nVidia demoengine....

Hey Canonball / Trauma Zero, thumbing down because of a lack of HW is stupid. Many of us would like to see this on Radeon, too.
Thumb down because of ATI-only or nVidia-only is a bit like thumb down because of GUS-only or "you need W2k or above". Got my point?

Oh, I see I've forgotten one thing:

Massive amount of very impressive artwork, but simply doesn't really cut it out for me.

what more to say

after getting a gfx i finally managed to watch this, still not having ati-support makes me hate shiva! :P

So so good. sound makes me happy.

i would have thumb up this one, but being nvidia only compliant is too sad :(

Looks damn nice, but it's just too boring.

Recently, I went through my scene video dir again and re-watched this piece together with several fr/tbl/mawi stuff.

And frankly, it appeared to me that this demo really stands the test of time much better than f.e. fr-025 does.

Artistic competence meets effort, style meets coherence and atmosphere meets direction. Magnificent details everywhere. I guess it would help most people, if it would have something more of an (obvious) point than just showing an impressive scenario. But I'm not sure. After all, there are enough hints to make up your own.

the absence of real shadows is noticeable and gives a little 'cheap' impression unlike scenes in the sky:: those are really great! // in any case, not boring at all and not so plain either: very kolor-ish=)

Had to watch the video because of no ATI support.

But apart from that ... very nice 3D models, good textures apart from being very different in resolution resulting in objects not touching eachother. Didn't like the music.

I realize the guys have put in a lot of work so I give them thumbs up.

Surreal ambientations and music, great!

Nice attention to detail as thom said, but it does seem to be needing a little something more to put it on my "top shelf". It still rates a rulez, tho.

An amazing example for truly respectable realtime art!

Love steampunk mood, details, music and taste of gfx art. Good stuff!

won't start here on gf6600gt suprise suprise

doesn't run on nvidia 6600

a trip in a fascinating world

i suppose a lot of hard work has gone to making of this demo. i like the details in this fiction.

doesn't run on 6600 GT -the IRONY!

unfortunately "glColorTableEXT" is not supported in GeForce 6xxx and later.

Rulez.
Now it runs on my 6600GT.

This is shiva's post about GeForceFx and Geforce6+ issues :

blame nvidia.
starting with some fx cards they dropped support for the colortabelext extension.
however, you can try this hack:
http://shiva.untergrund.net/relais/relais_hack1.exe
just replace the demo exe with that one. this is a very hacky thing though. you MUST choose "perfect textures" in the config dialog, otherwise the demo will simply crash. only nice for 256mb cards, really.

/shiva^kolor

Fuckings for being a nvidia only. Well, I just won't watch it then..

so much 3D work!

cool concept and visuals

really really nice.

lovely

Definately in my top 10 favorite demos!

Deserved the best graphics award, no question.

It has a very lovable "abstract" feel that usually occurs in Kolor demos and never gets old :)

so goodd

very cool, sad that this one won't run on radeon cards.

Ok there are several glitches – but I like the idea and the overall mood/style. In a strange way it remembers me in a future, long time ago. One of my favourites thumb up!

Nice modelling, bad music, boring demo. And nVidia only sucks.

Damn - I only have a geforce go 2 lappie - will give a review when I run it on my base pc with a gt7600 geforce.

this is awesome. the amount and quality of ideas, the little touches everywhere, the design, graphics, the music - totally awesome. it's even stood the test of time - ideas never go out of fashion. :)

yeah i'm sure they really do give a fuck :)

Rules!

What smash said!

to run this on ATi cards:

http://legend.uw.hu/relais_ati_fix_by_geri.rar

Some textures are has strike.

Amúgy jó demó, azok az ütemre ugráló hoppejek kibaszottul bejönnek, mondanám angolul is, de nem tudom.

Awesome!

the fix for "newer" nvidia cards made it for me.

boring

:)

Superb design and modeling skills, decent music. It really should have won the compo.

masterpiece, way ahead of its time!
(and all the whiners in this thread just dont have a clue..)

hmm, I've never thumbed this demo.

a very different, likable style. I find the music unique.

Are there better textures available?

Cool!

Excellent modeling, music and general mood. Well done!

a musical masterpiece. the rest is pretty cool too =)

nice!

Oh good w23 left a comment on this one, only minutes ago.

I remember having seen this demo with friends back in 2005, but never managed to remember it's name nor who made it - only to have it called the "Winker" demo, for the characters waving at the boarding ships.

Not only for it's time a very beautiful demo, but having this schematics as overlays , this lovely robots with their own attitude each, the setting, and somehow even a bit of story - make this one a remarkable demo. Feeling quite lucky to finally have it on my HDD again :)

I like the 19th early 20th century style design, the technology and furniture design of the movie "Dune" reminds me of that demo, everything looks ornated and old but its technology is advanced.

I also think the soundtrack fits very well.

Much work must have been put into all the little details.

Appreciated! :)

Graphics, design, et cetera

(and music)

((and typography, I mean fuck...))

It has it's flaws though, like the low-res textures, but still almost impeccable.

Nice design and 3d meshes :)

awesome

Still awesome in 2015.

wow

This demo is kick ass! Dipswitch was right, including the times.

Still decent, and the music is ace.

Steampunk style aerial vehicles operated by funny robots. Yes!